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11pt;font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Hi,<br><br>Thank
you very much for the positive feedback.<br><br>I'll keep an eye on
this.<br><br><br>Kind Regards<br>Deon<br></span><br><blockquote
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<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">April 3, 2013
2:51 PM</span></font></div></div></div><div
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__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody">Hi,
<br>
<br><br>
<br>That has been on our agenda for quite a while, but it never got high
priority so far. The bits and pieces are actually there in the db
schema, it has just never been exposed to the UI, and the job of
creating invoices was some proof-of-concept some years ago (the roots of
SPCE go back into 2007 already).
<br>
<br>However, with the upcoming 3.0 we're going to enforce couple of
things
during provisioning via the new UI/API like having a contact for a
contract for exactly that use-case, so we'd have the delivery
information (address, email etc) ready for putting it on invoices and
even send them out. So yeah, this will most likely be in 3.1 (~6 months
from now).
<br>
<br>The new panel/provisioning is still in a too early stage for making
useful contributions (the design and skeleton is there and we're in the
process of putting together the various bits and pieces), but I guess
within a month or two it should be possible for people to make useful
contributions in that regards as well.
<br>
<br>Andreas
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<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">April 2, 2013
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__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody">Hi Deon,
<br>
<br> Congrats on yer move from 'lurker' to 'poster', hehe. Welcome to
the
list ;)
<br>
<br>On 4/1/2013 1:28 PM, Deon Vermeulen wrote:
<br><blockquote type="cite">Hi,
<br>
<br>I've been watching/monitoring SPCE for quite some time now and am
very excited the progress and ground this development has made/cover
over the past 2 years to reach this new release.
<br>
<br></blockquote>
<br> Do you not use spce in a production capacity yet?
<br>
<br><blockquote type="cite">The source billing feature is exactly what
I've been looking for, but the only single feature at the moment keeping
me from replacing my current switching environment with SPCE is that
SPCE doesn't give one the option to manually/automatically generate an
invoice for prepaid Customers and/or Providers.
<br>
<br>I really feel that the sipwise team should look into this for the
next release as normally prepaid customers and providers are those that
require an invoice for TAX purposes.
<br>
<br>One could argue that an invoice can be generated of the system, but
the manual "Off-System" process would become and admin nightmare if you
have for argument sake 100 or more invoices to generate at month end or
whatever the general billing cycle is set to.
<br>
<br></blockquote>
<br> Ya, you'll need a 3rd party app or build yer own BUT everything is
there for 100% integration. Feel free to ask the list for suggestions,
everyone is quite helpful as you've probably noticed. There is a lot of
power given via the provisioning (SOAP/XMLRPC) so no reason why you
couldn't make this happen in the 3rd party billing.
<br>
<br><blockquote type="cite">I also can't get my head around is DID/Trunk
Billing to customers who have their own in house PABX and SIP Trunk
back to SPCE.
<br>
<br></blockquote>
<br> Think of it this way:
<br>
<br>SIP TRUNK CUSTOMER = SUBSCRIBER (they pay you)
<br>PEER = UPSTREAM (you pay them)
<br>
<br>Create each sip trunk as a subscriber, put the PABX IP:PORT as a
trusted
device, then add the DIDs for them as aliases. Calls to aliases will be
sent to the IP:PORT entered as the device. Lots of help available, any
time.
<br>
<br>
<br>Skyler
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<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">April 1, 2013
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__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div>Hi,<br><br>I've been
watching/monitoring SPCE for quite some time now and am very excited the
progress and ground this development has made/cover over the past 2
years to reach this new release.<br><br>The source billing feature is
exactly what I've been looking for, but the only single feature at the
moment keeping me from replacing my current switching environment with
SPCE is that SPCE doesn't give one the option to manually/automatically
generate an invoice for prepaid Customers and/or Providers.<br><br>I
really feel that the sipwise team should look into this for the next
release as normally prepaid customers and providers are those that
require an invoice for TAX purposes.<br><br>One could argue that an
invoice can be generated of the system, but the manual "Off-System"
process would become and admin nightmare if you have for argument sake
100 or more invoices to generate at month end or whatever the general
billing cycle is set to.<br><br>I also can't get my head around is
DID/Trunk Billing to customers who have their own in house PABX and SIP
Trunk back to SPCE.<br><br>Keep up the good work and congratulations
with this release.<br><br><br>Kind Regards<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br></div></div><div
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<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">March 29, 2013
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__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody">Hi guys,
<br>
<br>I'm excited to announce the new SPCE v2.8. Please check the official
announcement at
<br>
<br> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sipwise.com/news/announcements/spce-v2_8-release/">http://www.sipwise.com/news/announcements/spce-v2_8-release/</a>
<br>
<br>for a list of changes.
<br>
<br>This version will be our first LTS version, so we will keep
back-porting
fixes and security updates to this version for the next three years. If
you want something rock-stable for the years to come, you should go with
that!
<br>
<br>After v2.8 we'll switch to v3.0 (due in ~3 months as always) with a
completely reworked web panel, and we'll switch to a REST interface for
3rd party provisioning clients, and no more new features will be exposed
via the SOAP and XMLRPC (and we'll phase it out completely by end of
this year).
<br>
<br>I'd like to thank you all for your valuable feedback and
discussions,
let's keep it going for the next v3.0 with some awesome changes ahead!
<br>
<br>Thank you,
<br>Andreas
<br>
<br>PS: Please let us know if there goes something wrong in your upgrade
or
installation. It has been tested extensively via automated jobs and also
manually a lot of times, but if you find something nonetheless, we'll be
happy to fix it.
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