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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">It actually is answered, but really
      not, cause ot tries to be a fax, and it´s not. It rings, i took
      the phone and no audio, so  the call is canceled as it´s supossed
      to ba a fax.<br>
      <br>
      That´s the main thing on "blacklisting" fax<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      El 20/06/2014 16:13, Matthew Ogden escribió:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Your
            calling device is just canceling the call after ringing for
            9 seconds. The call is never actually established. T38 can
            only happen after 200 OK, and that’s not happening in this
            call log</span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Jun 19 10:36:43 SIPSW
          /usr/sbin/kamailio[2403]: INFO: <script>: NAT-Reply -
          S=100 - Connecting M=INVITE IP=<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://154.58.3.158:5060">154.58.3.158:5060</a> (<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://127.0.0.1:5080">127.0.0.1:5080</a>)
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ID=15059@154.58.3.158">ID=15059@154.58.3.158</a><br>
          Jun 19 10:36:43 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2395]: INFO:
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            moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://154.58.3.158:5060">154.58.3.158:5060</a>
          (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://127.0.0.1:5080">127.0.0.1:5080</a>)
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          Jun 19 10:36:52 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2399]: INFO:
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          IP=<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://154.58.3.158:5060">154.58.3.158:5060</a>
          (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://127.0.0.1:5060">127.0.0.1:5060</a>)
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:spce-user-bounces@lists.sipwise.com">spce-user-bounces@lists.sipwise.com</a>
                [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:spce-user-bounces@lists.sipwise.com">spce-user-bounces@lists.sipwise.com</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Leopoldo Iglesia<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> 20 June 2014 04:09 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:spce-user@lists.sipwise.com">spce-user@lists.sipwise.com</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Spce-user] Fwd: Re: Blacklist t.38
                fax codec</span></p>
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            The log for kamailio-proxy tells this when I call , and
            client tries to negotiate as fax.... <br>
            <br>
            Any ideas, apart from las post? Thanks<br>
            <br>
            Jun 19 10:36:43 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2391]: INFO:
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            Jun 19 10:36:43 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2391]: INFO:
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            Jun 19 10:36:43 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2391]: INFO:
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            Jun 19 10:36:43 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2391]: INFO:
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            Jun 19 10:36:43 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2391]: INFO:
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            Jun 19 10:36:43 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2391]: INFO:
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              href="mailto:ID=15059@154.58.3.158">ID=15059@154.58.3.158</a><br>
            Jun 19 10:36:43 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2391]: INFO:
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              href="mailto:sip:lb@127.0.0.1;lr;socket=">sip:lb@127.0.0.1;lr;socket=</a>'sip:<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://154.58.3.135:5060">154.58.3.135:5060</a>''
            - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:R=sip:x1008@154.58.3.159:5060">R=sip:x1008@154.58.3.159:5060</a>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ID=15059@154.58.3.158">ID=15059@154.58.3.158</a><br>
            Jun 19 10:36:43 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2391]: INFO:
            <script>: Forcing request via B2BUA 'sip:<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://127.0.0.1:5080">127.0.0.1:5080</a>'
            - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:R=sip:x1008@154.58.3.159:5060">R=sip:x1008@154.58.3.159:5060</a>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ID=15059@154.58.3.158">ID=15059@154.58.3.158</a><br>
            Jun 19 10:36:43 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2391]: INFO:
            <script>: Request leaving server, D-URI='sip:<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://127.0.0.1:5080">127.0.0.1:5080</a>'
            - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:R=sip:x1008@154.58.3.159:5060">R=sip:x1008@154.58.3.159:5060</a>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ID=15059@154.58.3.158">ID=15059@154.58.3.158</a><br>
            Jun 19 10:36:43 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2403]: INFO:
            <script>: NAT-Reply - S=100 - Connecting M=INVITE IP=<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://154.58.3.158:5060">154.58.3.158:5060</a>
            (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://127.0.0.1:5080">127.0.0.1:5080</a>)
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ID=15059@154.58.3.158">ID=15059@154.58.3.158</a><br>
            Jun 19 10:36:43 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2395]: INFO:
            <script>: NAT-Reply - S=180 - Ringing M=INVITE IP=<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://154.58.3.158:5060">154.58.3.158:5060</a>
            (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://127.0.0.1:5080">127.0.0.1:5080</a>)
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ID=15059@154.58.3.158">ID=15059@154.58.3.158</a><br>
            Jun 19 10:36:52 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2399]: INFO:
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              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:R=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">R=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135">F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135</a>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
            IP=<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://154.58.3.158:5060">154.58.3.158:5060</a>
            (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://127.0.0.1:5060">127.0.0.1:5060</a>)
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ID=15059@154.58.3.158">ID=15059@154.58.3.158</a><br>
            Jun 19 10:36:52 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2399]: INFO:
            <script>: Stop mediaproxy for current branch using
            first Via - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:R=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">R=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ID=15059@154.58.3.158">ID=15059@154.58.3.158</a><br>
            Jun 19 10:36:52 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2399]: ERROR:
            rtpproxy-ng [rtpproxy.c:1348]: proxy replied with error:
            Call-ID not found or tags didn't match<br>
            Jun 19 10:36:52 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2399]: INFO:
            <script>: Request leaving server via local route - <a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:R=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">R=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ID=15059@154.58.3.158">ID=15059@154.58.3.158</a><br>
            Jun 19 10:36:52 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2393]: INFO:
            <script>: NAT-Reply - S=487 - Request terminated
            M=INVITE IP=<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://154.58.3.158:5060">154.58.3.158:5060</a> (<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://127.0.0.1:5080">127.0.0.1:5080</a>)
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ID=15059@154.58.3.158">ID=15059@154.58.3.158</a><br>
            Jun 19 10:36:52 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2393]: INFO:
            <script>: Failure route for local call - <a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:R=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">R=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ID=15059@154.58.3.158">ID=15059@154.58.3.158</a><br>
            Jun 19 10:36:52 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2393]: INFO:
            <script>: Stop mediaproxy for current branch using
            first Via - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:R=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">R=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ID=15059@154.58.3.158">ID=15059@154.58.3.158</a><br>
            Jun 19 10:36:52 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2393]: ERROR:
            rtpproxy-ng [rtpproxy.c:1348]: proxy replied with error:
            Call-ID not found or tags didn't match<br>
            Jun 19 10:36:52 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2393]: INFO:
            <script>: Final reply - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:R=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">R=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ID=15059@154.58.3.158">ID=15059@154.58.3.158</a><br>
            Jun 19 10:36:52 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[2401]: INFO:
            <script>: New request - M=ACK <a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:R=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">R=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135">F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135</a>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
            IP=<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://154.58.3.158:5060">154.58.3.158:5060</a>
            (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://127.0.0.1:5060">127.0.0.1:5060</a>)
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ID=15059@154.58.3.158">ID=15059@154.58.3.158</a><br>
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            El 20/06/2014 14:24, Daniel Grotti escribió:</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Could be,<br>
              as I see also the normal t38 negotiation is
              client-dependent....it <br>
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              But from RFC3261:<br>
              <br>
               During the session, either Alice or Bob may decide to
              change the<br>
                 characteristics of the media session.  This is
              accomplished by<br>
                 sending a re-INVITE containing a new media
              description.  This re-<br>
                 INVITE references the existing dialog so that the other
              party knows<br>
                 that it is to modify an existing session instead of
              establishing a<br>
                 new session.  The other party sends a 200 (OK) to
              accept the change.<br>
                 The requestor responds to the 200 (OK) with an ACK.  If
              the other<br>
                 party does not accept the change, he sends an error
              response such as<br>
                 488 (Not Acceptable Here), which also receives an ACK. 
              However, the<br>
                 failure of the re-INVITE does not cause the existing
              call to fail -<br>
                 the session continues using the previously negotiated<br>
                 characteristics.<br>
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              Daniel<br>
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              On 06/20/2014 02:08 PM, Matthew Ogden wrote:</p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
                think the problem is, a 488 will stop the call
                altogether?</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
                cant recall, but if you get a 488 in a REINVITE, will
                the call not terminate after that, or does it “failback”
                to leaving t38 un-negotiated… might be device dependent?</span></p>
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                  <b><span
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                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Leopoldo Iglesia<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> 20 June 2014 01:55 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:spce-user@lists.sipwise.com">spce-user@lists.sipwise.com</a><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Spce-user] Fwd: Re: Blacklist
                    t.38 fax codec</span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Ok. "has_totag" where is located ??<br>
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                El 20/06/2014 13:35, Daniel Grotti escribió:</p>
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                  I have nothing ready to give you right now.<br>
                  Basically on kamailio proxy you should match a
                  Re-invite (using the "has_totag") and check if SDP
                  contains t38 headers/codec (just have a look how the
                  T38 reinvite looks like).<br>
                  So, if you receive a re-invite with T38 headers into
                  SDP, just send back a 488 reply.<br>
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                  Daniel<br>
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                  On 06/20/2014 01:28 PM, Leopoldo Iglesia wrote:</p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Fine, how can I do this hack?
                    cause endpoints is impossible to mod config, so they
                    are rented and provisioned by an ftth operator.<br>
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                    El 20/06/2014 13:23, Daniel Grotti escribió:</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
                      I think you need to avoid to forward the T38
                      Re-INVITE, so you should hack your SPCE in order
                      to reply to the T38 re-invite with a "488 Not
                      acceptable here", for example.<br>
                      So the sender SHOULD fallback to G711.<br>
                      Anyway, the best solution if you have endpoint
                      with t38 enabled but they don't work well, is to
                      disable t38.<br>
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                      <br>
                      Daniel<br>
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                      On 06/20/2014 01:15 PM, Leopoldo Iglesia wrote:</p>
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                        > But both endpoints support it, that is the
                        problem and the only > scenario when it
                        fails, so i want SPCE not to send Fax
                        negotiation to > endpoint,.<br>
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                        <br>
                         El 20/06/2014 12:12, Daniel Grotti escribió:
                        >> Hi, >> that's strange, if one of
                        the endpoints try to switch to t38 and the
                        >> other endpoint doesn't support it, they
                        should fallback to G711. >> >>
                        Daniel >> >> >> >>
                        >> >> >> On 06/20/2014 01:33
                        AM, Leopoldo Iglesia wrote: >>> How can
                        I, blacklist t.38 to avoid endpoints to try t38
                        negotiation? >>> >>> When i
                        call from ericcson ont to fax capable endpoint,
                        it try to >>> connect t38 fax and There
                        is no voice. >>> >>> Thanks
                        >>> >>> Leopoldo iglesia
                        >>> >>>
                        _______________________________________________
                        >>> Spce-user mailing list >>>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com">Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com</a>
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                          href="http://lists.sipwise.com/listinfo/spce-user">http://lists.sipwise.com/listinfo/spce-user</a>
                        >> >>
                        _______________________________________________
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