<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>It si not passing fax now, but no audio :(<br><br>Leopoldo iglesia </div><div><br>El 26/06/2014, a las 12:17, Daniel Grotti <<a href="mailto:dgrotti@sipwise.com">dgrotti@sipwise.com</a>> escribió:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
      please stop to duplicate the same topic.<br>
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      If you want to stop T38 only for that user, you have 2 choices:<br>
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      1. Change that client, cause it's a broken one<br>
      2. Remove manually from kamailio the SDP lines.<br>
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      Since you are running 2.8, please refer to kamailio 3.3.x modules
      list.<br>
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      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://kamailio.org/docs/modules/3.3.x/modules/sdpops.html">http://kamailio.org/docs/modules/3.3.x/modules/sdpops.html</a><br>
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      The module is not loaded by default.<br>
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      <br>
      Daniel<br>
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      On 06/26/2014 11:53 AM, Leopoldo Iglesia wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Partialy working! Not fax
        negotiating. but now..... <br>
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        Jun 26 11:51:11 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3230]: INFO:
        <script>: Setting PPI to '<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sip:984099520@154.58.3.135"><sip:984099520@154.58.3.135></a>'
        - <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060">R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:11 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3230]: INFO:
        <script>: Prepare Diversion setting - <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060">R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:11 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3230]: INFO:
        <script>: No selector set, not setting CLI - <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060">R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:11 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3230]: INFO:
        <script>: Prepare History-Info setting - <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060">R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:11 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3230]: INFO:
        <script>: No selector set, not setting CLI - <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060">R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:11 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3230]: INFO:
        <script>: Applying callee-out domain rewrite rules using
        dpid '4' - <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060">R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:11 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3230]: INFO:
        <script>: No matching rewrite rules for 'x1010' found - <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060">R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:11 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3230]: INFO:
        <script>: Setting P-Called-Party-ID '<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sip:x1010@154.58.3.135"><sip:x1010@154.58.3.135></a>'
        - <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060">R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:11 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3230]: INFO:
        <script>: Writing sbc parameters 
        ;aleg_sst_enable=no;sst_enable=no - <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060">R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:11 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3230]: INFO:
        <script>: Appending P-D-URI '<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sip:lb@127.0.0.1;lr;socket=">sip:lb@127.0.0.1;lr;socket=</a>'sip:154.58.3.135:5060''
        - <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060">R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:11 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3230]: INFO:
        <script>: Forcing request via B2BUA 'sip:127.0.0.1:5080' -
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060">R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:11 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3230]: INFO:
        <script>: Request leaving server,
        D-URI='sip:127.0.0.1:5080' - <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060">R=sip:x1010@154.58.3.188:5060</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:11 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3229]: INFO:
        <script>: NAT-Reply - S=100 - Connecting M=INVITE
        IP=154.58.3.158:5060 (127.0.0.1:5080) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:11 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3231]: INFO:
        <script>: NAT-Reply - S=180 - Ringing M=INVITE
        IP=154.58.3.158:5060 (127.0.0.1:5080) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:16 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3232]: INFO:
        <script>: NAT-Reply - S=200 - OK M=INVITE
        IP=154.58.3.158:5060 (127.0.0.1:5080) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:16 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3234]: INFO:
        <script>: New request - M=ACK R=sip:127.0.0.1:5080 <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135">F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
        IP=154.58.3.158:5060 (127.0.0.1:5060) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:16 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3234]: INFO:
        <script>: Dropping mis-routed request -
        R=sip:127.0.0.1:5080 <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:16 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3233]: INFO:
        <script>: NAT-Reply - S=200 - OK M=INVITE
        IP=154.58.3.158:5060 (127.0.0.1:5080) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:16 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3227]: INFO:
        <script>: New request - M=ACK R=sip:127.0.0.1:5080 <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135">F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
        IP=154.58.3.158:5060 (127.0.0.1:5060) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:16 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3227]: INFO:
        <script>: Dropping mis-routed request -
        R=sip:127.0.0.1:5080 <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:17 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3228]: INFO:
        <script>: NAT-Reply - S=200 - OK M=INVITE
        IP=154.58.3.158:5060 (127.0.0.1:5080) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:17 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3230]: INFO:
        <script>: New request - M=ACK R=sip:127.0.0.1:5080 <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135">F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
        IP=154.58.3.158:5060 (127.0.0.1:5060) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:17 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3230]: INFO:
        <script>: Dropping mis-routed request -
        R=sip:127.0.0.1:5080 <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:21 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3231]: INFO:
        <script>: NAT-Reply - S=200 - OK M=INVITE
        IP=154.58.3.158:5060 (127.0.0.1:5080) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:21 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3234]: INFO:
        <script>: New request - M=ACK R=sip:127.0.0.1:5080 <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135">F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
        IP=154.58.3.158:5060 (127.0.0.1:5060) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:21 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3234]: INFO:
        <script>: Dropping mis-routed request -
        R=sip:127.0.0.1:5080 <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:23 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3233]: INFO:
        <script>: New request - M=BYE R=sip:127.0.0.1:5080 <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135">F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
        IP=154.58.3.158:5060 (127.0.0.1:5060) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:23 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3233]: INFO:
        <script>: Stop mediaproxy for all branches -
        R=sip:127.0.0.1:5080 <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:23 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3233]: ERROR:
        rtpproxy-ng [rtpproxy.c:1348]: proxy replied with error: Call-ID
        not found or tags didn't match<br>
        Jun 26 11:51:24 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3227]: INFO:
        <script>: New request - M=BYE R=sip:127.0.0.1:5080 <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135">F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
        IP=154.58.3.158:5060 (127.0.0.1:5060) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:24 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3227]: INFO:
        <script>: Stop mediaproxy for all branches -
        R=sip:127.0.0.1:5080 <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:24 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3227]: ERROR:
        rtpproxy-ng [rtpproxy.c:1348]: proxy replied with error: Call-ID
        not found or tags didn't match<br>
        Jun 26 11:51:25 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3232]: INFO:
        <script>: New request - M=BYE R=sip:127.0.0.1:5080 <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135">F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
        IP=154.58.3.158:5060 (127.0.0.1:5060) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:25 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3232]: INFO:
        <script>: Stop mediaproxy for all branches -
        R=sip:127.0.0.1:5080 <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
        Jun 26 11:51:25 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3232]: ERROR:
        rtpproxy-ng [rtpproxy.c:1348]: proxy replied with error: Call-ID
        not found or tags didn't match<br>
        Jun 26 11:51:25 SIPSW /usr/sbin/kamailio[3230]: INFO:
        <script>: New request - M=ACK R=sip:127.0.0.1:5080 <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135">F=sip:x1009@154.58.3.135</a>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135">T=sip:984099519@154.58.3.135</a>
        IP=154.58.3.158:5060 (127.0.0.1:5060) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ID=2089@154.58.3.158">ID=2089@154.58.3.158</a><br>
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        El 26/06/2014 10:44, Daniel Grotti escribió:<br>
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          What client is that which is not support T38 negotiation.<br>
          Sorry, but you have to fix a client issue on server side, this
          is something awkward.<br>
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          So you should remove that T38 codecs then.<br>
          The following module may help:<br>
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          Try to have a look at this.<br>
          <br>
          Daniel<br>
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          On 06/26/2014 10:18 AM, Leopoldo Iglesia wrote:<br>
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            next packet is other invite.. and no more.<br>
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            The problem is that the SDP packet comes withh all codecs
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            El 20/06/2014 14:09, Daniel Grotti escribió:<br>
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              If you want to discard all INVITEs with T38, you can try
              to add something like that in your
              /etc/ngcp-config/templates/etc/kamailio/proxy/proxy.cfg.customtt.tt2:<br>
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              if(is_method("INVITE") && search_body("udptl"))<br>
              {<br>
                 sl_send_reply("488", "Not Acceptable Here");<br>
                 exit;<br>
              }<br>
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              before to send the invite to ROUTE_INVITE.<br>
              Then run "ngcpcfg apply".<br>
              <br>
              So, each INVITE/REINVITE with udpl in their body will be
              discarded.<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              Daniel<br>
              <br>
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              <br>
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              On 06/20/2014 01:35 PM, Daniel Grotti wrote:<br>
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              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I have nothing ready to give
                you right now.<br>
                Basically on kamailio proxy you should match a Re-invite
                (using the "has_totag") and check if SDP contains t38
                headers/codec (just have a look how the T38 reinvite
                looks like).<br>
                So, if you receive a re-invite with T38 headers into
                SDP, just send back a 488 reply.<br>
                <br>
                Daniel<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
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                On 06/20/2014 01:28 PM, Leopoldo Iglesia wrote:<br>
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Fine, how can I do this
                  hack? cause endpoints is impossible to mod config, so
                  they are rented and provisioned by an ftth operator.<br>
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                  El 20/06/2014 13:23, Daniel Grotti escribió:<br>
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                    I think you need to avoid to forward the T38
                    Re-INVITE, so you should hack your SPCE in order to
                    reply to the T38 re-invite with a "488 Not
                    acceptable here", for example.<br>
                    So the sender SHOULD fallback to G711.<br>
                    Anyway, the best solution if you have endpoint with
                    t38 enabled but they don't work well, is to disable
                    t38.<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    Daniel<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
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                    On 06/20/2014 01:15 PM, Leopoldo Iglesia wrote:<br>
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                      > But both endpoints support it, that is the
                      problem and the only > scenario when it fails,
                      so i want SPCE not to send Fax negotiation to >
                      endpoint,.<br>
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                       El 20/06/2014 12:12, Daniel Grotti escribió:
                      >> Hi, >> that's strange, if one of
                      the endpoints try to switch to t38 and the
                      >> other endpoint doesn't support it, they
                      should fallback to G711. >> >> Daniel
                      >> >> >> >> >>
                      >> >> On 06/20/2014 01:33 AM, Leopoldo
                      Iglesia wrote: >>> How can I, blacklist
                      t.38 to avoid endpoints to try t38 negotiation?
                      >>> >>> When i call from
                      ericcson ont to fax capable endpoint, it try to
                      >>> connect t38 fax and There is no
                      voice. >>> >>> Thanks
                      >>> >>> Leopoldo iglesia
                      >>> >>>
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