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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Nop, no 2 seconds integration for the
      prepay feature with SPCE.<br>
      <br>
      However, you might want to reconsider handling your prepay
      (traffic shut-off) at the billing system level, because there
      might be a flaw in the approach.<br>
      I am far from being an expert on the prepay stuff so don't take it
      as a word of expert, but based on my investigations on the
      subject, it is not that simple to get things clean...<br>
      <br>
      You would have to check in real time the number of concurrent
      calls and running cost for any given customers and maitain a
      running balance and match it againts the credit limit.<br>
      (a cron to check the running cost every sec on every call for the
      computer guys approache, or in the signaling/voice strean for the
      network guys, or something alike).<br>
      <br>
      So either you use Freeside do it does it "live", which might be
      quite some work to get to a very clean solution;<br>
      Or you import CDRs from SPCE, and then you have an issue as SPCE
      produces CDR Files once every 5 hours or once it reaches a define
      number of calls, not great if you have wholesale prepaid
      clients...<br>
      <br>
      Bottom line, I would use the SPCE individual billing plan and
      fraud detection to control the prepay part and Freeside to produce
      invoices, account for the payments (Credit Cards, Wire etc...),
      get your customers slef service for invoices, CDR files etc...<br>
      And unlock the account in SPCE via the APIs once the credit is
      applyed in Freeside, see the idea?<br>
      <br>
      Now there might be better billing solutions out there so don't
      take that approach as the best one, it is just the way I would do
      it do get up and running real quick with limited resources...<br>
      <br>
      Seb.<br>
      <br>
      Le 21/11/2014 06:11, Derrick Bradbury a écrit :<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">One other one to look at is <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://killbill.io">http://killbill.io</a>  <br>
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      <p dir="ltr">Just started to look at that one...</p>
      <div class="quote">On Nov 20, 2014 10:53 PM, Theo
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:axessofficetheo@gmail.com"><axessofficetheo@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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        <div dir="ltr">Hi
          <div><br>
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          <div>Thanks all for the input. Pity that nothing came of the
            development at the time. </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>I will investigate freeside although the statement:</div>
          <div><br>
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          <div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;
              font-size:13px">"So if you have inhouse qualified people
              it might do the trick" worries me a little, because we
              don't :-).</span><br>
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              font-size:13px"><br>
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          <div><font face="arial, sans-serif">But let's have a look at
              it to see what it will take to have something developed.
              At this point, in terms of integration all we would need
              really is CDR import, some way of disabling an account
              upon reaching of credit limit in an automated way and
              automated emails to a client that they are reaching their
              credit limit (which would be our way of doing prepaid). We
              are having a look at the pro version currently which would
              have prepaid, but either way we would need it integrated.
              Those are really the only 3 must haves for us to be able
              to use sipwise fully.</font></div>
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          <div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Sebastien - to achieve
              those 3, would that be fairly involved or "2 seconds
              work"?</font></div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:34 AM,
            Jeremy Ward <span dir="ltr">
              <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:jward01@gmail.com" target="_blank">jward01@gmail.com</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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              <p dir="ltr">Not only is it a hole in many open-source
                projects, its a hole in many lower end of the price
                range closed source products ($1-$2/Mo per seat/line)</p>
              <p dir="ltr">For instance, VoipNOW does real time rating,
                but to use billing you have to use their crappy
                integrated "Automation" product. It comes with a
                customer facing front end (even automated deployment of
                subscribers) but its not even smart enough to allow an
                end user to select a DID in their region during signup.
                You still have to manually assign a DID, unless you want
                it to pick one from your pool which could be anywhere.
              </p>
              <p dir="ltr">If you manually create an account through the
                admin portal, there's no way to bill what you created
                through the Automation component.</p>
              <p dir="ltr">What's more, is that customers have to log
                into two different interfaces, one to pay their bill,
                and another to look at their individual charged calls
                and then run a report, it's not even presented on the
                bill and there's no way to integrate the two without
                building something from scratch that uses their API.</p>
              <p dir="ltr">The vendors answer: use our API, or buy
                Parallels Automation (at about $90K USD, plus a
                quarterly revenue share).<br>
              </p>
              <p dir="ltr">Whoever solves this huge hole and does so
                under one product, low cost or open-source, is going to
                get some serious market share.</p>
              <p dir="ltr"><br>
                Jeremy D. Ward, CWNE<br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="tel:%28954%29%20661-4965" value="+19546614965"
                  target="_blank">(954) 661-4965</a></p>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 20, 2014 11:13 AM,
                    "Oren Yehezkely" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:orenyny@gmail.com" target="_blank">orenyny@gmail.com</a>>
                    wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                      <div dir="ltr">Theo,
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>To use either one jBilling or blesta
                          requires the community to invest, but nobody
                          was willing to chip in.</div>
                        <div>This is a big hole with many open source
                          projects, but this is the sad situation.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
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                      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at
                          10:40 AM, Abel Alejandro <span dir="ltr">
                            <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:aalejandro@alliedtechnologygrouppr.com"
                              target="_blank">aalejandro@alliedtechnologygrouppr.com</a>></span>
                          wrote:<br>
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                            <div dir="ltr">I use freeside - <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://www.freeside.biz/"
                                target="_blank">http://www.freeside.biz/</a>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Not as feature complete as jbilling
                                but gets the job done.</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Abel.</div>
                              <div><br>
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                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 19,
                                2014 at 7:26 AM, Theo <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:axessofficetheo@gmail.com"
                                    target="_blank">axessofficetheo@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                wrote:<br>
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                                  <div dir="ltr">Hi all
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>There was a thread at one point
                                      about integrating the CE version
                                      with billing platforms. Jbilling
                                      was mentioned and Blesta if I
                                      remember correctly.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Are there any suggestions for
                                      platforms that people use and have
                                      working nicely with spce? Jbilling
                                      of course is fantastic but way out
                                      of bounds pricewise. Blesta is not
                                      suitable for our environment.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>We haven't use sipwise yet for
                                      rating and billing for this reason
                                      but are quite keen to start using
                                      it for that as well.</div>
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                                    <div>Thanks a lot for any input.</div>
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