<html><body><div style="font-family: tahoma,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>i think it is easy if you cut the "free rates" from the billing profiles... cause free rates should be on customer layer and not on billing profile layer. </div><div>also free rates are not really free rates, it is just a minute or cash pool a customer can make calls over it. and if this pool is zero the normal billing fees starts.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>for the other problem... special rates has a higher priority over the base rates... then this should be no problem...<br></div><div><br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>Von: </b>"Raúl Alexis Betancor Santana" <rabs@dimension-virtual.com><br><b>An: </b>"Barry Flanagan" <barry@flanagan.ie><br><b>CC: </b>"Matthias Hohl" <matthias.hohl@telematica.at>, "Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com" <spce-user@lists.sipwise.com><br><b>Gesendet: </b>Montag, 2. März 2015 12:22:24<br><b>Betreff: </b>Re: [Spce-user] Feature Request: Setting "free minutes packages" without billing profiles and possibility to cascade billing profiles<br></div><br><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;" data-mce-style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><div>It's a good feature to have ... but as all rating/billing systems outthere, will suffer from the 'prefix matching' problem.</div><br><div>What to do if you have:</div><br><div>Base rate: +44.* 0,01</div><div>Customer special rate: +4422.* 0,05</div><div>Free rates: +44.* 0,0</div><br><div>And customer calls +44223....</div><br><div>I know it's not a good example ... but a typical one ... to inner-most profile doesn't include the top-most profile. I have seen that problem before, and it's not easy to solve.</div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>De: </b>"Barry Flanagan" <barry@flanagan.ie><br><b>Para: </b>"Matthias Hohl" <matthias.hohl@telematica.at><br><b>CC: </b>"Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com" <spce-user@lists.sipwise.com><br><b>Enviados: </b>Lunes, 2 de Marzo 2015 11:17:14<br><b>Asunto: </b>Re: [Spce-user] Feature Request: Setting "free minutes packages" without billing profiles and possibility to cascade billing profiles<br></blockquote></div><div><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">On 2 March 2015 at 08:15, Matthias Hohl <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at" target="_blank">matthias.hohl@telematica.at</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div style="font-family: tahoma,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;" data-mce-style="font-family: tahoma,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><div>Hello,<br></div><br><div>is there a possibility to exclude free minutes from the billing profiles to set them seperatly on an other layer..?</div><div>Currently I have 5 different billing profiles and this just because i need 5 different "free minutes" packages.</div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><snip><br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div style="font-family: tahoma,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;" data-mce-style="font-family: tahoma,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><br><br><div><b>Another feature request:</b></div><div>Is is also possible to cascade billing fee profiles..?</div></div></div></blockquote><br></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I would also love to see cascading billing profiles. Would make life so much more simple and less error prone.<br><br>Would cascading profiles not also solve your first issue regarding free time/cash? You would simply add your free destinations in a separate profile and these would over-ride the rates in the main profile.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Or maybe I think of cascading differently: I would want to be able to have, for example, a full a-z profile with my standard base rates, and then the ability to specify one or more additional profiles and any rates in these would take precedence over the base rates of any other rate set in a previous profile.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">1. Base Profile - my stadard rates<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">2. Customer special Rates - for example a customer has a special rate for UK calls<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">3. Free Rates - defining which rates get to use free time/cash<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">So in the above scenario, I could have a base UK rate, and for this particular customer I have assigned a special rate. However I have also included UK in the Free Rates. Therefore this customer will first of all use their Free time for UK calls and then will pay the Special Rates for any subsequent UK calls.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">This would require being able to specify the priority of a rate profile, so that you can determine which rate gets picked.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">It would allow just one Base profile and then deal with exceptions in additional profiles. It would immediately be obvious how a particular customer is being rated and make rates an order of magnitude easier to maintain.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">-Barry Flanagan<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br></div></div>
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