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<div>Hi Raul,</div>
<div>I tried with many providers that I found googling. Most of them have many problems related to CLI presentation and very high inconsistency on fees. At first, it seems that they are convenient but, after a while, you get a new pricelist with prices towards
Italy 4x higher that before. On the other hand, since we have no possibility to fund a big charge at this first business step, we can't work with Tier1 carriers which can provide a more serious service..so we had to accept this compromise. </div>
<div>This carrier can manage every type of number, CLI works, they have a solid (10+ years) voip infrastructure and it is a Tier1 carrier in Italy, so call quality is very good, even if their support (especially the technincal one) is very poor or quite absent.</div>
<div>Everybody knows that they could manage things as we are saying but they simply can't due to their burocracy.</div>
<div>Burocracy is one of the main reasons of the failure of Italian economy.</div>
<div>Unfortunately, it is something that flows in our veins.</div>
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<div>Ps : sorry for the OT</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><b>Da:</b> Raúl Alexis Betancor Santana <rabs@dimension-virtual.com><br>
<b>Inviato:</b> 07/ott/2015 01:19 AM<br>
<b>A:</b> spce-user<br>
<b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [Spce-user] R: info on call routing<br>
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Alessandro, trust me ... if they beging forcing you to work that way ... no matter how good your commercial deal it's ... that's only the first a of a huge, huge list of problems that will come later. ANY SERIUOS WHOLESALE PROVIDER works that way ... ANY, trust
me ... I had worked with the biggest (and they are the lest friendly ones) carriers, and all that sounds like they are poorly tech oriented.<br>
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----- Mensaje original -----<br>
> De: "Alessandro Bolletta" <alessandro@mediaspot.net><br>
> Para: "Daniel Grotti" <dgrotti@sipwise.com>, "Raúl Alexis Betancor Santana" <rabs@dimension-virtual.com><br>
> CC: "spce-user" <spce-user@lists.sipwise.com><br>
> Enviados: Miércoles, 7 de Octubre 2015 0:07:12<br>
> Asunto: R: [Spce-user] info on call routing<br>
<br>
> Hi guys,<br>
> you're right, this is a very uglyish way of providing a wholesale<br>
> "carrier-grade" service, but for some commecial reasons I'm such locked to<br>
> them.<br>
> <br>
> However, fyi, I could get them working with a middle Freeswitch proxy,<br>
> configured by hand.<br>
> It was such as a self-defeating satisfaction.<br>
> <br>
> Alessandro<br>
> <br>
> -----Messaggio originale-----<br>
> Da: Spce-user [<a href="mailto:spce-user-bounces@lists.sipwise.com">mailto:spce-user-bounces@lists.sipwise.com</a>] Per conto di Daniel<br>
> Grotti<br>
> Inviato: mercoledì 23 settembre 2015 20.30<br>
> A: Raúl Alexis Betancor Santana <rabs@dimension-virtual.com><br>
> Cc: spce-user <spce-user@lists.sipwise.com><br>
> Oggetto: Re: [Spce-user] info on call routing<br>
> <br>
> Agree with Raul Alessandro, as I told you in private, this is ridiculous. Change<br>
> carrier.<br>
> <br>
> Daniel<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Sep 23, 2015 7:57 PM, Raúl Alexis Betancor Santana<br>
> <rabs@dimension-virtual.com> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> First of all ... CHANGE CARRIER ... if a SIP Carrier works like that ... they<br>
>> are full-bullshit.<br>
>><br>
>> From than on ...<br>
>><br>
>> For outbound routing, you will have to define your carrier as a new peer for<br>
>> every DID they give you (a non-sence setup, from my point of view), then on<br>
>> each peer, set the remote autentication options. Also on the routing rules, you<br>
>> will have to take into account to witch peer you must send each outgoing call,<br>
>> based on the DID they allow you.<br>
>> Also, if they force you to 'register' each SIP account to get inbound calls ...<br>
>> you have to set the SEMS related part for that, on the SPCE manual you have the<br>
>> instructions to do that.<br>
>> For incoming routing, nothing extrange must be done ... just assing your DID to<br>
>> your subscribers, as always.<br>
>><br>
>> Lot of work to setup and mantain ... non viable proyect (from my point<br>
>> of view) if you are a mid-side ITSP<br>
>><br>
>> Best regards<br>
>><br>
>> ----- Mensaje original -----<br>
>> > De: "Alessandro Bolletta" <alessandro@mediaspot.net><br>
>> > Para: "spce-user" <spce-user@lists.sipwise.com><br>
>> > Enviados: Miércoles, 23 de Septiembre 2015 14:49:03<br>
>> > Asunto: [Spce-user] info on call routing<br>
>><br>
>> > Hi,<br>
>> > <br>
>> > I'm trying to manage this scenario in Sipwise: my new SIP carrier<br>
>> > can't give me a unique SIP trunk in which sending/receiving every<br>
>> > call, as for other carriers, but he can only manage my customers<br>
>> > with a different SIP account for every geographical number.<br>
>> > <br>
>> > So, how could I manage outbound and inbound call routings in a<br>
>> > scenario like this?<br>
>> > <br>
>> > Cheers,<br>
>> > <br>
>> > --<br>
>> > Alessandro Bolletta<br>
>> > Mediaspot Srl<br>
>> > <br>
>> > <br>
>> > <br>
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