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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DE-AT link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>></span> <span lang=EN-US>If a call of one of this beginnings will come to be rated, it will be ignored by this fee and this one will be used:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>>".","^43900.+$",out,"Outbound VAC”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Yes and the others you prepare<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>".","^43800.+$",out,"Outbound VAC 800”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>".","^43810.+$",out,"Outbound VAC 810”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>".","^43820.+$",out,"Outbound VAC 820”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>should work then.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'> Matthias Hohl [mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 10. Jänner 2018 17:22<br><b>An:</b> 'Rene Krenn' <rkrenn@sipwise.com>; 'Spce-user' <Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com><br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: platform internal value added call rating between subscribers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hello again,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>i run version 4.5.5, afaik is there no mariadb running, or?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>So you mean the solution would be to create a negative lookup for every VAC number right?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>So in case of Austria If I want to exclude all VAC numbers I have to create this entries in my billing profile:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>"<a href="mailto:%5e.*@sip\.telematica\.at$">^.*@sip\.telematica\.at$</a>",”</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>^(?!43800|43810|43820|43821|43900|43930|43901|43931|43939)</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:.+@sip\.telematica\.at$"><span lang=EN-US>.+@sip\.telematica\.at$</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>“</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>,out,</span><span lang=EN-US>"Telematica","Internal Network",0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>If a call of one of this beginnings will come to be rated, it will be ignored by this fee and this one will be used:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>".","^43900.+$",out,"Outbound VAC”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Right?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'> Rene Krenn [<a href="mailto:rkrenn@sipwise.com">mailto:rkrenn@sipwise.com</a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Wednesday, January 10, 2018 3:08 PM<br><b>An:</b> 'Matthias Hohl' <<a href="mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at">matthias.hohl@telematica.at</a>>; 'Spce-user' <<a href="mailto:Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com">Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: platform internal value added call rating between subscribers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Rato-o-mat also tries full sip uri (incl. Doamin) before the numbers only - which also comes into effect with your fees.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you run a version with maridb, you might want to try a regexp with negative lookahead assertion like <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>^(?!43900)<a href="mailto:.+@sip\.telematica\.at$">.+@sip\.telematica\.at$</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>for your on-net fee destination. 43900er numbers shouldnt be hit it anymore then.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'> Matthias Hohl [<a href="mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at">mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at</a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 10. Jänner 2018 14:10<br><b>An:</b> 'Rene Krenn' <<a href="mailto:rkrenn@sipwise.com">rkrenn@sipwise.com</a>>; 'Spce-user' <<a href="mailto:Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com">Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: platform internal value added call rating between subscribers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Sorry, looks like I cutted away the “source” part…. Here again:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>"<a href="mailto:%5e.*@sip\.telematica\.at$">^.*@sip\.telematica\.at$</a>","<a href="mailto:%5e.*@sip\.telematica\.at$">^.*@sip\.telematica\.at$</a>",out,</span><span lang=EN-US>"Telematica","Internal Network",0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'> Rene Krenn [<a href="mailto:rkrenn@sipwise.com">mailto:rkrenn@sipwise.com</a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:02 PM<br><b>An:</b> 'Matthias Hohl' <<a href="mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at">matthias.hohl@telematica.at</a>>; 'Spce-user' <<a href="mailto:Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com">Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: platform internal value added call rating between subscribers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>according to the current fee selection mechanism, the fee with longest destination pattern</span> <span lang=EN-US>is used; if equal the fee with the longer src pattern wins.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>What are src and dest patterns of your 3<sup>rd</sup> fee below?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'> Matthias Hohl [<a href="mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at">mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at</a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 10. Jänner 2018 13:38<br><b>An:</b> 'Spce-user' <<a href="mailto:Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com">Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Rene Krenn' <<a href="mailto:rkrenn@sipwise.com">rkrenn@sipwise.com</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> platform internal value added call rating between subscribers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hello,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>found out a new special thing today with platform internal calls and local value added call rating and negative fees:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>The setup:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I created a billing profile with 3 entries:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>"^43.+$","^43900222222.+$",in,"Inbound VAC","Austria",-2.5,1,-2.5,1,-2.5,1,-2.5,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>".","^43900.+$",out,"Outbound VAC”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>“<a href="mailto:%5e.*@sip\.telematica\.at$">^.*@sip\.telematica\.at$</a>”,out,"Telematica","Internal Network",0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I created a subscriber A with number 43 720 111111<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I created a subscriber B with number 43 720 888888 and Alias 43 900 222222<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>If someone is calling the number of subscriber B, the caller should pay 2 EUR.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>If subscriber B is receiving a call to his 43 900 222222 number, he should get billed with -1,5 EUR.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>If subscriber A is calling subscriber B on 43 720 888888 he should pay the internal network fee of 0,01 EUR.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>The problem is, that the “internal network” fee overrules the fee for subscriber A for the “Outbound VAC” call, but subscriber B gets the “inbound VAC” payment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'>Normally, if subscriber A calls the Alias number of subscriber B the call should be rated with 2 EUR each minute at subscriber A and with -1,5 EUR each minute at subscriber B but the “internal network” fee, just allows that subscriber A will be rated with 0,01 EUR each minute and subscriber B with -1,5 EUR each minute.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>The Subsriber A (caller) will be rated as platform internal call with 0,01 EUR and the subsciber B (callee) will be negative rated with -1,50 EUR.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>So I need to pay the subscriber B money I didn’t get from subscriber A for the value added service call.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>If I remove my “internal network” fee, the subscriber A get billed with the premium rate fee auf 2 EUR and subscriber B get the billed with the negative fee of -1,5 EUR.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>How can I fix this? The “internal network” fee needs to be in a lower priority like the value added call fee, but how to enable this? Any other workaround?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>If I completely remove the “internal network” fee, then every customer will be rated like if this would be a normal external call and the benefit of “internal network” discount fees will be away.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I also found out, that the “billing zone” in the callee subscriber is always the billing zone of the caller subscriber.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>This also could be little bit confusing for the callee, cause he didn’t see the right billing zone description for his negative billed Value Added Call.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Any idea about this?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I hope I descriped it well enough…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'>Mit freundlichen Grüßen,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'>Matthias Hohl<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'>TELEMATICA Internet Service Provider GmbH<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'>Phone: +43 (0)5 056 400-12<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'>Mail: <a href="mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at">matthias.hohl@telematica.at</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:DE-AT'>Web: <a href="https://www.telematica.at">https://www.telematica.at</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>