<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>Okay cool!</div><div>Then i need to update first to version 5.5.2 to have mariadb enabled and i will test it ;)</div><div><br>Am 11.01.2018 um 15:15 schrieb Rene Krenn <<a href="mailto:rkrenn@sipwise.com">rkrenn@sipwise.com</a>>:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">></span> <span lang="EN-US">If a call of one of this beginnings will come to be rated, it will be ignored by this fee and this one will be used:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">>".","^43900.+$",out,"Outbound VAC”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Yes and the others you prepare<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">".","^43800.+$",out,"Outbound VAC 800”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">".","^43810.+$",out,"Outbound VAC 810”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">".","^43820.+$",out,"Outbound VAC 820”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">should work then.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT"> Matthias Hohl [<a href="mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at">mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at</a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 10. Jänner 2018 17:22<br><b>An:</b> 'Rene Krenn' <<a href="mailto:rkrenn@sipwise.com">rkrenn@sipwise.com</a>>; 'Spce-user' <<a href="mailto:Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com">Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: platform internal value added call rating between subscribers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hello again,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">i run version 4.5.5, afaik is there no mariadb running, or?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">So you mean the solution would be to create a negative lookup for every VAC number right?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">So in case of Austria If I want to exclude all VAC numbers I have to create this entries in my billing profile:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">"<a href="mailto:%5e.*@sip\.telematica\.at$">^.*@sip\.telematica\.at$</a>",”</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">^(?!43800|43810|43820|43821|43900|43930|43901|43931|43939)</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="mailto:.+@sip\.telematica\.at$"><span lang="EN-US">.+@sip\.telematica\.at$</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">“</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">,out,</span><span lang="EN-US">"Telematica","Internal Network",0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">If a call of one of this beginnings will come to be rated, it will be ignored by this fee and this one will be used:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">".","^43900.+$",out,"Outbound VAC”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Right?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT"> Rene Krenn [<a href="mailto:rkrenn@sipwise.com">mailto:rkrenn@sipwise.com</a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Wednesday, January 10, 2018 3:08 PM<br><b>An:</b> 'Matthias Hohl' <<a href="mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at">matthias.hohl@telematica.at</a>>; 'Spce-user' <<a href="mailto:Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com">Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: platform internal value added call rating between subscribers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Rato-o-mat also tries full sip uri (incl. Doamin) before the numbers only - which also comes into effect with your fees.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If you run a version with maridb, you might want to try a regexp with negative lookahead assertion like <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">^(?!43900)<a href="mailto:.+@sip\.telematica\.at$">.+@sip\.telematica\.at$</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">for your on-net fee destination. 43900er numbers shouldnt be hit it anymore then.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT"> Matthias Hohl [<a href="mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at">mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at</a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 10. Jänner 2018 14:10<br><b>An:</b> 'Rene Krenn' <<a href="mailto:rkrenn@sipwise.com">rkrenn@sipwise.com</a>>; 'Spce-user' <<a href="mailto:Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com">Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: platform internal value added call rating between subscribers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Sorry, looks like I cutted away the “source” part…. Here again:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">"<a href="mailto:%5e.*@sip\.telematica\.at$">^.*@sip\.telematica\.at$</a>","<a href="mailto:%5e.*@sip\.telematica\.at$">^.*@sip\.telematica\.at$</a>",out,</span><span lang="EN-US">"Telematica","Internal Network",0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT"> Rene Krenn [<a href="mailto:rkrenn@sipwise.com">mailto:rkrenn@sipwise.com</a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:02 PM<br><b>An:</b> 'Matthias Hohl' <<a href="mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at">matthias.hohl@telematica.at</a>>; 'Spce-user' <<a href="mailto:Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com">Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: platform internal value added call rating between subscribers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">according to the current fee selection mechanism, the fee with longest destination pattern</span> <span lang="EN-US">is used; if equal the fee with the longer src pattern wins.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">What are src and dest patterns of your 3<sup>rd</sup> fee below?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT"> Matthias Hohl [<a href="mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at">mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at</a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 10. Jänner 2018 13:38<br><b>An:</b> 'Spce-user' <<a href="mailto:Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com">Spce-user@lists.sipwise.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Rene Krenn' <<a href="mailto:rkrenn@sipwise.com">rkrenn@sipwise.com</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> platform internal value added call rating between subscribers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">found out a new special thing today with platform internal calls and local value added call rating and negative fees:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The setup:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I created a billing profile with 3 entries:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US">"^43.+$","^43900222222.+$",in,"Inbound VAC","Austria",-2.5,1,-2.5,1,-2.5,1,-2.5,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US">".","^43900.+$",out,"Outbound VAC”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US">“<a href="mailto:%5e.*@sip\.telematica\.at$">^.*@sip\.telematica\.at$</a>”,out,"Telematica","Internal Network",0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I created a subscriber A with number 43 720 111111<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I created a subscriber B with number 43 720 888888 and Alias 43 900 222222<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">If someone is calling the number of subscriber B, the caller should pay 2 EUR.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">If subscriber B is receiving a call to his 43 900 222222 number, he should get billed with -1,5 EUR.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">If subscriber A is calling subscriber B on 43 720 888888 he should pay the internal network fee of 0,01 EUR.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The problem is, that the “internal network” fee overrules the fee for subscriber A for the “Outbound VAC” call, but subscriber B gets the “inbound VAC” payment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE-AT">Normally, if subscriber A calls the Alias number of subscriber B the call should be rated with 2 EUR each minute at subscriber A and with -1,5 EUR each minute at subscriber B but the “internal network” fee, just allows that subscriber A will be rated with 0,01 EUR each minute and subscriber B with -1,5 EUR each minute.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The Subsriber A (caller) will be rated as platform internal call with 0,01 EUR and the subsciber B (callee) will be negative rated with -1,50 EUR.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">So I need to pay the subscriber B money I didn’t get from subscriber A for the value added service call.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">If I remove my “internal network” fee, the subscriber A get billed with the premium rate fee auf 2 EUR and subscriber B get the billed with the negative fee of -1,5 EUR.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">How can I fix this? The “internal network” fee needs to be in a lower priority like the value added call fee, but how to enable this? Any other workaround?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">If I completely remove the “internal network” fee, then every customer will be rated like if this would be a normal external call and the benefit of “internal network” discount fees will be away.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I also found out, that the “billing zone” in the callee subscriber is always the billing zone of the caller subscriber.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This also could be little bit confusing for the callee, cause he didn’t see the right billing zone description for his negative billed Value Added Call.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Any idea about this?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I hope I descriped it well enough…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT">Mit freundlichen Grüßen,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT">Matthias Hohl<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT">TELEMATICA Internet Service Provider GmbH<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT">Phone: +43 (0)5 056 400-12<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT">Mail: <a href="mailto:matthias.hohl@telematica.at">matthias.hohl@telematica.at</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT">Web: <a href="https://www.telematica.at">https://www.telematica.at</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></body></html>