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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Hey Vincent,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">yes you are sure, I have forgotten about on-net calls.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">There you need to look bit deeper and take <source_customer_cost> and <dest_customer_cost> from the same CDR line to bill a call from subscriber A to subscriber B.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">But basically the identification of inbound and outbound is true. Just the on-net calls need to be fished out with another logic of source/dest customer costs.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'calibri' , sans-serif;">Not exactly true, what he suggested would make you miss some inbound calls. You can not separate in and out CDR for the simple reason that a CDR could be both.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'calibri' , sans-serif;">If one of your customers could call another one of your customers, then the same CDR will be outgoing for one customer and incoming for the other customer.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'calibri' , sans-serif;">You should have a system that checks every CDR, and bill the source_user and/or destination_user(_in) depending on your rules.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'calibri' , sans-serif;">If you need to separate them, you will have to make duplicates sometimes.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">You can easily idenfity a incoming and outcoming call by the tables in the CDR file.<br>so there is basically no separation needed.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">OUTBOUND:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> IF </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">"<source_account_id>" IS NOT "0" </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">INBOUND:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;"> IF</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;"> "<source_account_id>" IS "0" </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;"> AND</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;"> "<destination_customer_cost>" IS NOT "0"</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;"> OR</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;"> "<destination_customer_cost>" IS "0"</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;"> AND</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;"> "destination_customer_free_time>" IS NOT "0"</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'arial' , sans-serif; color: black;">Hello, we have to bill some of our customers for incoming calls. At the moment outgoing and incoming calls are recorded on the same CDR files. Is it possible to separate incoming calls into specific CDR files?</span></p>
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