[Spce-user] billing integration

[Theo]

I neglected to mention that a lot of the solutions we have had a look at
are focussed on payment gateways. In our environment that doesn't work.
People simple do an EFT and HOPEFULLY use the correct reference, in which
case a csv import of the bank statement would deal with that, but in most
cases they don't and use some arbitrary reference that we have to decipher
manually, then do the "topup" ourselves manually. We would like to see a
payment gateway of course but the resistance is very high - it's too
complicated and time consuming "they" find.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Derrick Bradbury <derrickb at halex.com>
wrote:

>  One other one to look at is http://killbill.io
>
> Just started to look at that one...
> On Nov 20, 2014 10:53 PM, Theo <axessofficetheo at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Hi
>
>  Thanks all for the input. Pity that nothing came of the development at
> the time.
>
>  I will investigate freeside although the statement:
>
>  "So if you have inhouse qualified people it might do the trick" worries
> me a little, because we don't :-).
>
>  But let's have a look at it to see what it will take to have something
> developed. At this point, in terms of integration all we would need really
> is CDR import, some way of disabling an account upon reaching of credit
> limit in an automated way and automated emails to a client that they are
> reaching their credit limit (which would be our way of doing prepaid). We
> are having a look at the pro version currently which would have prepaid,
> but either way we would need it integrated. Those are really the only 3
> must haves for us to be able to use sipwise fully.
>
>  Sebastien - to achieve those 3, would that be fairly involved or "2
> seconds work"?
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:34 AM, Jeremy Ward <jward01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Not only is it a hole in many open-source projects, its a hole in many
>> lower end of the price range closed source products ($1-$2/Mo per seat/line)
>>
>> For instance, VoipNOW does real time rating, but to use billing you have
>> to use their crappy integrated "Automation" product. It comes with a
>> customer facing front end (even automated deployment of subscribers) but
>> its not even smart enough to allow an end user to select a DID in their
>> region during signup. You still have to manually assign a DID, unless you
>> want it to pick one from your pool which could be anywhere.
>>
>> If you manually create an account through the admin portal, there's no
>> way to bill what you created through the Automation component.
>>
>> What's more, is that customers have to log into two different interfaces,
>> one to pay their bill, and another to look at their individual charged
>> calls and then run a report, it's not even presented on the bill and
>> there's no way to integrate the two without building something from scratch
>> that uses their API.
>>
>> The vendors answer: use our API, or buy Parallels Automation (at about
>> $90K USD, plus a quarterly revenue share).
>>
>> Whoever solves this huge hole and does so under one product, low cost or
>> open-source, is going to get some serious market share.
>>
>>
>> Jeremy D. Ward, CWNE
>> (954) 661-4965
>>  On Nov 20, 2014 11:13 AM, "Oren Yehezkely" <orenyny at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Theo,
>>>
>>>  To use either one jBilling or blesta requires the community to invest,
>>> but nobody was willing to chip in.
>>> This is a big hole with many open source projects, but this is the sad
>>> situation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Abel Alejandro <
>>> aalejandro at alliedtechnologygrouppr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I use freeside - http://www.freeside.biz/
>>>>
>>>>  Not as feature complete as jbilling but gets the job done.
>>>>
>>>>  Abel.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Theo <axessofficetheo at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>
>>>>>  There was a thread at one point about integrating the CE version
>>>>> with billing platforms. Jbilling was mentioned and Blesta if I remember
>>>>> correctly.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Are there any suggestions for platforms that people use and have
>>>>> working nicely with spce? Jbilling of course is fantastic but way out of
>>>>> bounds pricewise. Blesta is not suitable for our environment.
>>>>>
>>>>>  We haven't use sipwise yet for rating and billing for this reason
>>>>> but are quite keen to start using it for that as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks a lot for any input.
>>>>>
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