[Spce-user] cfu during call from one subscriber to another

Matthew Ogden matthew at tenacit.net
Sat Oct 25 08:26:21 EDT 2014


Also, maybe I am explaining my self badly.

The SourceUser column is correctly displaying TN001 in the log I sent you,
but that same line, both the SourceExtAccountId and SourceExtSubscriberId
are displaying PD001 (the original calling user).

So if you use these two fields for billing (SourceExtAccountId and
SourceExtSubsbriberId), then I end up billing the wrong caller? (Whereas,
if you look at SourceUser, you will bill the right caller for the cfu leg.

Hope I am explaining myself correctly.

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Matthew Ogden <matthew at tenacit.net> wrote:

> Thanks Andrew, but we have been using SourceAccountExtId to check who
> should pay for the call, in exported system.
>
> the cfu leg of the call is billable to the person who needed the cfu to
> exist (Called party).
>
> But in the case of a CFU, its actually the otherway around, (isn't that a
> little counter-intuitive?) Well, it was for me, but
>
> I can quite happily go and change it around post-processing, but in your
> panel, do you then make two queries for all your lookups as well for
> billing? Or are you billing the original calling party?
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Andrew Pogrebennyk <
> apogrebennyk at sipwise.com> wrote:
>
>> Matthew,
>> // I'm adding list to the cc again since this message doesn't carry
>> conditential information
>> So the mysql output shows you have two CDRs, one for the caller and
>> another for subscriber which has a call forwarding, just like I said.
>>
>> Think of it like that in case of call A->B forwarded to C, you get one
>> CDR for A->B and a second one with B->C with call_type='cfu'. You can
>> use the call_type field if you want to apply special rating to the
>> forwarding subscriber.
>>
>> On 14/10/14 16:42, Matthew Ogden wrote:
>> > Hi Andrew,
>> >
>> > I've kept this offlist, and didn't want to sanitize it and lose any info
>> > you might need.
>> >
>> > Please find attached
>> >
>> > I wasn't sure the best way to give you the two records, so I just used
>> > mysql OUTPUTFILE syntax.
>> > There are two records in it.
>> >
>> > The call is from PD001 and then the cfu leg for TEST1 is logged as a
>> > call against PD001 in SourceSubscriber
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Andrew Pogrebennyk
>> > <apogrebennyk at sipwise.com <mailto:apogrebennyk at sipwise.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Hi,
>> >     you should have two CDRs, one for the caller and another for
>> subscriber
>> >     which has a call forwarding. This is consistent for any 2.x and 3.x
>> >     release. What is your issue? Could you please provide the select *
>> from
>> >     accounting.cdr where call_id='...'? And if there is really just one
>> CDR
>> >     provide the kamailio-proxy.log for this call-id.
>> >
>> >     Regards,
>> >     Andrew
>> >
>> >     On 10/10/2014 10:00 AM, Matthew Ogden wrote:
>> >     > Hi All,
>> >     >
>> >     > Seems to be quite a serious issue this (at least on a large
>> system it
>> >     > could be if a lot of inter subscriber calling with cfu's is
>> occuring).
>> >     >
>> >     > Is there any additional info I can give you ?
>> >     >
>> >     > On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Matthew Ogden <
>> matthew at tenacit.net <mailto:matthew at tenacit.net>
>> >     > <mailto:matthew at tenacit.net <mailto:matthew at tenacit.net>>> wrote:
>> >     >
>> >     >     Hi All
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >     I'm running templates templates 2.8.18
>> >     >
>> >     >     It seems that if one subscriber calls another subscriber, if
>> >     the 2nd
>> >     >     subscriber does a call forward, that the call cost is logged
>> >     against
>> >     >     the calling (caller) subscriber, and not the called (callee)
>> >     >     subscriber.
>> >     >
>> >     >     I'm seeing this in my exported CDRs.
>> >     >
>> >     >     I wanted to check, is this the expectation (because I'm
>> >     thinking it
>> >     >     should not be), or is there something wrong in this template
>> >     version?
>> >     >
>> >     >     Kind Regards
>> >     >     Matthew
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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