[Spce-user] Billing Plan fallback on missing fee

[Barry Flanagan]

On 2 February 2017 at 15:33, Raúl Alexis Betancor Santana <
rabs at dimension-virtual.com> wrote:

> Are you using the Kamailio evapi ? as the cGRates tutorial suggest, or
> other way to create the CDRs?
>

No because that would require more customization to SP than we wish to do.
So far we have just used the cdr client cdrc to inject them.

As I say, at this point we are just at the proof of concept stage. Lacking
in manpower right now to push it further - cgrates itself is a steep
learning curve. Hopefully some time this year we will run the two in
parallel as a further test and see how it goes.

-Barry


> Best regards
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *De: *"Barry Flanagan" <barry at flanagan.ie>
> *Para: *"Oleg" <spce at irg-x.net>
> *CC: *spce-user at lists.sipwise.com
> *Enviados: *Jueves, 2 de Febrero 2017 15:47:59
> *Asunto: *Re: [Spce-user] Billing Plan fallback on missing fee
>
> On 2 February 2017 at 15:34, Oleg <spce at irg-x.net> wrote:
>
>> Interesting, I would have bet you'd be modifing kamailio-proxy.cfg to add
>> routes with cgrates acc code.
>>
>
> No - I think that might be a step too far for the good people at Sipwise
> Support :-)
>
> -Barry
>
>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Oleg
>>
>>
>> On 2017-02-02 16:24, Barry Flanagan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2 February 2017 at 14:53, Oleg <spce at irg-x.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for Your comment. Indeed, I too have to update 10 or 30
>>>> Billing Plans every time my upstream providers change rates. It's
>>>> somewhat cumbersome to maintain and repeat same fees across all the
>>>> billing plans all the time.
>>>>
>>>> Your idea with CGRates sounds interesting. Any pointers for
>>>> integration between sipwise and cgrates?
>>>>
>>>
>>> We would just intend to replace rate-o-mat with a daemon to feed in
>>> the CDR to cgrates then mark them as rated in SP. Our invoicing system
>>> then takes in its rated CDR from cgrates instead of SP.
>>>
>>> We have already decoupled our front-end rate management system from
>>> SP. Instead of writing the rates directly to SP it gets written to a
>>> separate system, which can then populate the rates in either/both SP
>>> and cgrates.
>>>
>>> So far we have successfully exported the same rate card to both
>>> systems and have sent sample SP CDR to cgrates and confirmed they were
>>> correctly rated. Still a lot of work to do though.
>>>
>>> -Barry
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Oleg.
>>>>
>>>> On 2017-02-02 14:48, Barry Flanagan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2 February 2017 at 13:01, Oleg <spce at irg-x.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Just wandering if there is a way to tell SPCE to fallback to an
>>>> alternative billing_plan if rate-o-mat does not find a Fee in the
>>>> current plan (on Customer's billing plan missing Fee, apply
>>>> Reseller' billing plan fee for the given destination, if present).
>>>>
>>>> No, not possible at the moment. Pity. It would be great if you
>>>> could
>>>> assign a "fallthrough" rate card to a customer. So, you could have
>>>> your standard rate card as base, and then for customer A you can
>>>> have
>>>> a rate card with just a few (say UK) rates. A call from this
>>>> customer
>>>> would first check their rate card and if not found, check the
>>>> fallthrough one.
>>>>
>>>> This would mean that instead of having to maintain full separate
>>>> rate
>>>> cards for every customer where there is a slight difference, you
>>>> just
>>>> maintain the standard rates and then the smaller individual rate
>>>> cards
>>>> per customer.
>>>>
>>>> This and the lack of multiple Free Time "buckets" are my biggest
>>>> gripes with SP (I am on Pro).
>>>>
>>>> We are actually investigating cgrates as an alternative rating
>>>> engine
>>>> (we don't use the invoicing built in to SP)
>>>>
>>>> -Barry Flanagan
>>>>
>>>> Example.
>>>>
>>>> - 'DefaultResellerBillingPlan' contains all the destinations
>>>> - 'ClientsOfferPlan' contains one destination Fee only (ex.: 5%
>>>> discount calculated for fees to US
>>>> '^1,on_peak_init_rate,on_peak_init_interval,...')
>>>>
>>>> A user with 'ClientsOfferPlan' assigned is billed through
>>>> DefaultResekkerBillingPlan for all the destination (therein
>>>> present), except for one Fee ('^1'), which is billed through
>>>> 'ClientsOfferPlan'.
>>>>
>>>> In other words, I'd like sipwise to rate (and include in Invoice)
>>>> 'accounting.cdr.source_reseller_cost' (if > 0) when
>>>> accounting.cdr.source_customer_cost=0.
>>>>
>>>> Is this possible?
>>>>
>>>> Thank You
>>>>
>>>> Oleg
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