[Spce-user] Override NCOS Level

Thu Aug 20 04:11:45 EDT 2015

OK - Seems like it would be a fairly simply function to implement from what I can see in the database.

Guess I'll just have to do some wizardry in the DB until the feature exists :)

Cheers,

Greg

Greg Lipschitz | Director | The Summit Group
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-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Grotti [mailto:dgrotti at sipwise.com]
Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2015 6:04 PM
To: Greg Lipschitz <Greg at thesummitgroup.com.au>; spce-user at lists.sipwise.com
Subject: Re: [Spce-user] Override NCOS Level

Hi,
unfortunately we do not have a "clone" feature for NCOS Level so far.

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Daniel Grotti
VoIP Engineer

Sipwise GmbH
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On 08/20/2015 10:02 AM, Greg Lipschitz wrote:
> Thanks Daniel - that order of operations makes sense.  I'll do some further tests.
>
> How do you suggest we duplicate lists easily?
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Greg Lipschitz | Director | The Summit Group
> E: Greg at thesummitgroup.com.au  W: www.thesummitgroup.com.au The Summit
> Group (Australia) Pty Ltd | P: 1300 049 749 | Level 1, 39 Railway
> Road, Blackburn  VIC  3130 The Summit Group (USA) LLC | P: 321 216 3844 | Suite 561, 40E Main Street, Newmark  DE 19711
> Postal:      P.O. Box 3225, Doncaster East  VIC  3109
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Grotti [mailto:dgrotti at sipwise.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2015 5:24 PM
> To: Greg Lipschitz <Greg at thesummitgroup.com.au>;
> spce-user at lists.sipwise.com
> Subject: Re: [Spce-user] Override NCOS Level
>
> Hi,
> in general if the preferences is not set on subscriber level, the system will use the one set on Domain.
> If you set a preference on subscriber level (e.g. NCOS Level) this will have the precedence and will be used instead of the Domain one.
>
> So, if you have to treat a subscriber in a different way from the other subscribers under the same domain, just create a new specific NCOS level for that subscriber and assign it to him in the subscriber's preferences.
>
> All the others subs will use the domain NCOS level, that subscriber will use the specific NCOS level without that number.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Daniel Grotti
> VoIP Engineer
>
>
> Sipwise GmbH
> Europaring F15 | 2345 Brunn am Gebirge, Austria | www.sipwise.com
>
> On 08/20/2015 12:51 AM, Greg Lipschitz wrote:
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply.
>>
>> I understand that I can create another NCOS Level with the item(s) removed from the other list(s), but, my issue is that there is no method by which to clone existing lists.
>>
>> Example;
>>
>> List 1 (Blacklist)
>> Deny 12
>> Deny 23
>> Deny 34
>> Deny 45
>> Deny 56
>>
>> Now use calls up and says, I need to call 34 BUT you still want to block all others.
>> Your only option from what I can gather you're saying is to MANUALLY recreate another list (List 2) with the 1 item removed.
>>
>> List 2 (Blacklist)
>> Deny 12
>> Deny 23
>> Deny 45
>> Deny 56
>>
>> Short of getting in to the database to do this, is there an easier way to achieve this from the UI?
>>
>> Then, the second part is in what order are the rules applied?
>>
>> Domain > Subscriber (If domain NCOS exists, then do not apply the
>> subscriber NCOS) Subscriber > Domain (If the subscriber NCOS exists,
>> then do not apply the domain NCOS)
>>
>> It seemed a little unclear in the manual as to the order of operations.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg Lipschitz | Director | The Summit Group
>> E: Greg at thesummitgroup.com.au  W: www.thesummitgroup.com.au The
>> Summit Group (Australia) Pty Ltd | P: 1300 049 749 | Level 1, 39
>> Railway Road, Blackburn  VIC  3130 The Summit Group (USA) LLC | P: 321 216 3844 | Suite 561, 40E Main Street, Newmark  DE 19711
>> Postal:      P.O. Box 3225, Doncaster East  VIC  3109
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Spce-user [mailto:spce-user-bounces at lists.sipwise.com] On
>> Behalf Of Daniel Grotti
>> Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:21 AM
>> To: spce-user at lists.sipwise.com
>> Subject: Re: [Spce-user] Override NCOS Level
>>
>> Hi,
>> you can create a specific NCOS which is skipping that number from the blacklist and you can assign this to the subscriber directly.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Grotti
>> VoIP Engineer
>>
>>
>> Sipwise GmbH
>> Europaring F15 | 2345 Brunn am Gebirge, Austria | www.sipwise.com
>>
>> On 08/19/2015 04:03 PM, Greg Lipschitz wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I've just been playing with the NCOS levels to tighten up on
>>> International Toll Fraud.
>>>
>>> I have created a list defined as a blacklist and added all of my
>>> destinations to it that I wish to deny.
>>> I have then applied this at the domain level so that it applies
>>> globally to all subscribers.
>>>
>>> If I then have a subscriber who has a requirement to call a country
>>> in my blacklist, what is the best way to create a whitelist and
>>> apply it so that that subscriber can call that destination, but that
>>> it only overrides for that subscriber?
>>>
>>> I tested with a whitelist with 1 destination, and applied this at
>>> the subscriber level, but it seems that the deny at the domain level
>>> trumps the allow at the subscriber level.
>>>
>>> There also doesn't seem to be an easy way to "clone" the lists
>>> should I want to clone it and remove.
>>> Perhaps the ability to make "Groups" or apply Hierarchically would be good?
>>>
>>> Thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions?
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>>
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>>>
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