[Spce-user] Override NCOS Level

Thu Aug 20 06:12:38 EDT 2015

Hi Daniel,

I've done some further tests this evening with 2 lists.

Applied List 1 at the Domain with ^1, ^2, ^3, ^4, ^5
Applied List 2 at the Subscriber with ^1, ^2, ^4, ^5 (so that the user can call ^3)

It still appears to be applying the domain list not the subscriber list.
Are you sure that the order of operations is Subscriber, Domain as it seems Domain is still overriding.

Is there something else that has to be set to allow the override to take affect?

At the domain level I have List 1 applied to;
- ncos
- adm_ncos
- adm_cf_ncos

At the subscriber level I have List 2 applied to;
- ncos
- adm_ncos
- adm_cf_ncos

Just want to make sure this is correct so that I can ensure my team can override correctly as required.

Cheers,

Greg

Greg Lipschitz | Director | The Summit Group
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From: Greg Lipschitz
Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2015 6:11 PM
To: Daniel Grotti; spce-user at lists.sipwise.com
Subject: RE: [Spce-user] Override NCOS Level

OK - Seems like it would be a fairly simply function to implement from what I can see in the database.

Guess I'll just have to do some wizardry in the DB until the feature exists :)

Cheers,

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Grotti [mailto:dgrotti at sipwise.com]
Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2015 6:04 PM
To: Greg Lipschitz <Greg at thesummitgroup.com.au>; spce-user at lists.sipwise.com
Subject: Re: [Spce-user] Override NCOS Level

Hi,
unfortunately we do not have a "clone" feature for NCOS Level so far.

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Daniel Grotti
VoIP Engineer

Sipwise GmbH
Europaring F15 | 2345 Brunn am Gebirge, Austria | www.sipwise.com

On 08/20/2015 10:02 AM, Greg Lipschitz wrote:
> Thanks Daniel - that order of operations makes sense.  I'll do some further tests.
>
> How do you suggest we duplicate lists easily?
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Greg Lipschitz | Director | The Summit Group
> E: Greg at thesummitgroup.com.au  W: www.thesummitgroup.com.au The Summit
> Group (Australia) Pty Ltd | P: 1300 049 749 | Level 1, 39 Railway
> Road, Blackburn  VIC  3130 The Summit Group (USA) LLC | P: 321 216 3844 | Suite 561, 40E Main Street, Newmark  DE 19711
> Postal:      P.O. Box 3225, Doncaster East  VIC  3109
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Grotti [mailto:dgrotti at sipwise.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2015 5:24 PM
> To: Greg Lipschitz <Greg at thesummitgroup.com.au>;
> spce-user at lists.sipwise.com
> Subject: Re: [Spce-user] Override NCOS Level
>
> Hi,
> in general if the preferences is not set on subscriber level, the system will use the one set on Domain.
> If you set a preference on subscriber level (e.g. NCOS Level) this will have the precedence and will be used instead of the Domain one.
>
> So, if you have to treat a subscriber in a different way from the other subscribers under the same domain, just create a new specific NCOS level for that subscriber and assign it to him in the subscriber's preferences.
>
> All the others subs will use the domain NCOS level, that subscriber will use the specific NCOS level without that number.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Daniel Grotti
> VoIP Engineer
>
>
> Sipwise GmbH
> Europaring F15 | 2345 Brunn am Gebirge, Austria | www.sipwise.com
>
> On 08/20/2015 12:51 AM, Greg Lipschitz wrote:
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply.
>>
>> I understand that I can create another NCOS Level with the item(s) removed from the other list(s), but, my issue is that there is no method by which to clone existing lists.
>>
>> Example;
>>
>> List 1 (Blacklist)
>> Deny 12
>> Deny 23
>> Deny 34
>> Deny 45
>> Deny 56
>>
>> Now use calls up and says, I need to call 34 BUT you still want to block all others.
>> Your only option from what I can gather you're saying is to MANUALLY recreate another list (List 2) with the 1 item removed.
>>
>> List 2 (Blacklist)
>> Deny 12
>> Deny 23
>> Deny 45
>> Deny 56
>>
>> Short of getting in to the database to do this, is there an easier way to achieve this from the UI?
>>
>> Then, the second part is in what order are the rules applied?
>>
>> Domain > Subscriber (If domain NCOS exists, then do not apply the
>> subscriber NCOS) Subscriber > Domain (If the subscriber NCOS exists,
>> then do not apply the domain NCOS)
>>
>> It seemed a little unclear in the manual as to the order of operations.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg Lipschitz | Director | The Summit Group
>> E: Greg at thesummitgroup.com.au  W: www.thesummitgroup.com.au The
>> Summit Group (Australia) Pty Ltd | P: 1300 049 749 | Level 1, 39
>> Railway Road, Blackburn  VIC  3130 The Summit Group (USA) LLC | P: 321 216 3844 | Suite 561, 40E Main Street, Newmark  DE 19711
>> Postal:      P.O. Box 3225, Doncaster East  VIC  3109
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Spce-user [mailto:spce-user-bounces at lists.sipwise.com] On
>> Behalf Of Daniel Grotti
>> Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:21 AM
>> To: spce-user at lists.sipwise.com
>> Subject: Re: [Spce-user] Override NCOS Level
>>
>> Hi,
>> you can create a specific NCOS which is skipping that number from the blacklist and you can assign this to the subscriber directly.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Grotti
>> VoIP Engineer
>>
>>
>> Sipwise GmbH
>> Europaring F15 | 2345 Brunn am Gebirge, Austria | www.sipwise.com
>>
>> On 08/19/2015 04:03 PM, Greg Lipschitz wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I've just been playing with the NCOS levels to tighten up on
>>> International Toll Fraud.
>>>
>>> I have created a list defined as a blacklist and added all of my
>>> destinations to it that I wish to deny.
>>> I have then applied this at the domain level so that it applies
>>> globally to all subscribers.
>>>
>>> If I then have a subscriber who has a requirement to call a country
>>> in my blacklist, what is the best way to create a whitelist and
>>> apply it so that that subscriber can call that destination, but that
>>> it only overrides for that subscriber?
>>>
>>> I tested with a whitelist with 1 destination, and applied this at
>>> the subscriber level, but it seems that the deny at the domain level
>>> trumps the allow at the subscriber level.
>>>
>>> There also doesn't seem to be an easy way to "clone" the lists
>>> should I want to clone it and remove.
>>> Perhaps the ability to make "Groups" or apply Hierarchically would be good?
>>>
>>> Thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions?
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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