[Spce-user] Set billing profile per subscriber not per customer.

Barry Flanagan barry at flanagan.ie
Fri Sep 25 11:52:13 EDT 2015


On 25 September 2015 at 15:41, Matthias Hohl <matthias.hohl at telematica.at>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> yah i know that this is the way to create a second customer but in my
> opinion, this is just a work arround and no real deal.
>
> Better would be to associate the billing profile to a subscriber and not
> to a customer.
> So there is ONE customer with differnent subscriber with different billing
> profiles.
>
>
What you _can_ do - although it is only slightly less of a pain: you can
have one billing profile, but in the source field, instead of putting "."
put in "^<callerid of subscriber1", then duplicate all (or just some) of
the billing_fees entries using a source of "^callerid of subscriber2" and
so on.

Example, two subscribers, with callerIDs 35313994576 and 35313994577, then
source would be "^35313994576" and "^35313994577"

This will apply different rates to each subscriber from the same billing
profile, at the expense of having a really big billing profile to deal with.

This really breaks though when you are dealing with a subscriber (a trunk
perhaps) which has 100+ possible CallerIDs. Totally unmanageable then.

I have toyed with the idea of hacking rate-o-mat so that it will look for a
rate with source of "un=<username>" (username being the username of the
caller subscriber), and if that exists, then use that rate. This would much
more easily allow having special rates for a specific subscriber regardless
of how many CLI they might present. In fact I think billing based on the
source CLI instead of the actual subscriber is kind of nuts. I have raised
this as an issue on our PRO system, but there seems to be no appetite to
consider any change.

Hope this helps.

-Barry Flanagan


otherwise you can't have a real overview of the subscriber of one customer.
> (cause in your case, you must create 2 or 3 or whatever customers. But it
> is everytime the same contact behind).
> Also there is no function to see the customers of a contact in SPCE... i
> can only search for the customer name in the customer database and see
> there then 2 customers and must go into it and look which customer has
> which subsribers inside.
>
> not really workflow friendly.
>
> but just my 2 cents to this story.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *Von: *"Daniel Grotti" <dgrotti at sipwise.com>
> *An: *spce-user at lists.sipwise.com
> *Gesendet: *Donnerstag, 24. September 2015 15:37:28
> *Betreff: *Re: [Spce-user] Set billing profile per subscriber not per
> customer.
>
> Hi,
>
> In this case you have to create a customer associated to the billing
> profile 1 with 1 subscriber, and another customer associated to BP 2
> with 1 subscriber.
> These 2 customer can share the same contact.
>
> I don't see any problem here.
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Grotti
> VoIP Engineer
>
>
> Sipwise GmbH
> Europaring F15 | 2345 Brunn am Gebirge, Austria | www.sipwise.com
>
> On 09/24/2015 10:22 AM, Matthias Hohl wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > today I regonize a small workflow problem in 3.8.2:
> >
> > There is a contact, a contact could have different customers, and every
> > customers could have different subscribers.
> > So, now I have one customer who needs 2 subscribers, but the customers
> > needs for every subscriber a different billing profile.
> > This is currently not possible, cause the billing profile is on customer
> > layer and not in subscriber layer.
> >
> > Only work-a-round is to clone the customer and give the new
> > cloned customer a different billing profile and create then the second
> > subscriber.
> >
> > That is a little problem, cause I can't centralize the subscribers of
> > one customer with different billing profiles in one customer profile.
> >
> > It would be good, if one customer could have different subscribers with
> > different billing profiles.
> >
> >
> > Is this maybe a feature, which will implement in the future?
> > Or is this already possible in version 4.0.1 ?
> >
> >
> > Thank You
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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