[Spce-user] platform internal value added call rating between subscribers

Thu Jan 11 09:17:39 EST 2018

Okay cool!
Then i need to update first to version 5.5.2 to have mariadb enabled and i will test it ;)

> Am 11.01.2018 um 15:15 schrieb Rene Krenn <rkrenn at sipwise.com>:
> 
> > If a call of one of this beginnings will come to be rated, it will be ignored by this fee and this one will be used:
> >".","^43900.+$",out,"Outbound VAC”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0
>  
> Yes and the others you prepare
> ".","^43800.+$",out,"Outbound VAC 800”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0
> ".","^43810.+$",out,"Outbound VAC 810”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0
> ".","^43820.+$",out,"Outbound VAC 820”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0
> ..
>  
> should work then.
> regards
>  
> Von: Matthias Hohl [mailto:matthias.hohl at telematica.at] 
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Jänner 2018 17:22
> An: 'Rene Krenn' <rkrenn at sipwise.com>; 'Spce-user' <Spce-user at lists.sipwise.com>
> Betreff: AW: platform internal value added call rating between subscribers
>  
> Hello again,
>  
> i run version 4.5.5, afaik is there no mariadb running, or?
>  
> So you mean the solution would be to create a negative  lookup for every VAC number right?
> So in case of Austria If I want to exclude all VAC numbers I have to create this entries in my billing profile:
>  
> "^.*@sip\.telematica\.at$",”^(?!43800|43810|43820|43821|43900|43930|43901|43931|43939).+ at sip\.telematica\.at$“,out,"Telematica","Internal Network",0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0
>  
> If a call of one of this beginnings will come to be rated, it will be ignored by this fee and this one will be used:
>  
> ".","^43900.+$",out,"Outbound VAC”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0
>  
> Right?
>  
>  
>  
> Von: Rene Krenn [mailto:rkrenn at sipwise.com] 
> Gesendet: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 3:08 PM
> An: 'Matthias Hohl' <matthias.hohl at telematica.at>; 'Spce-user' <Spce-user at lists.sipwise.com>
> Betreff: AW: platform internal value added call rating between subscribers
>  
> Rato-o-mat also tries full sip uri (incl. Doamin) before the numbers only - which also comes into effect with your fees.
>  
> If you run a version with maridb, you might want to try a regexp with negative lookahead assertion like 
>  
> ^(?!43900).+ at sip\.telematica\.at$
>  
> for your on-net fee destination. 43900er numbers shouldnt be hit it anymore then.
>  
> regards
>  
> Von: Matthias Hohl [mailto:matthias.hohl at telematica.at] 
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Jänner 2018 14:10
> An: 'Rene Krenn' <rkrenn at sipwise.com>; 'Spce-user' <Spce-user at lists.sipwise.com>
> Betreff: AW: platform internal value added call rating between subscribers
>  
>  
> Sorry, looks like I cutted away the “source” part…. Here again:
>  
> "^.*@sip\.telematica\.at$","^.*@sip\.telematica\.at$",out,"Telematica","Internal Network",0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0
>  
>  
> Von: Rene Krenn [mailto:rkrenn at sipwise.com] 
> Gesendet: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:02 PM
> An: 'Matthias Hohl' <matthias.hohl at telematica.at>; 'Spce-user' <Spce-user at lists.sipwise.com>
> Betreff: AW: platform internal value added call rating between subscribers
>  
> Hi,
>  
> according to the current fee selection mechanism, the fee with longest destination pattern is used; if equal the fee with the longer src pattern wins.
> What are src and dest patterns of your 3rd fee below?
>  
> regards
>  
> Von: Matthias Hohl [mailto:matthias.hohl at telematica.at] 
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Jänner 2018 13:38
> An: 'Spce-user' <Spce-user at lists.sipwise.com>
> Cc: 'Rene Krenn' <rkrenn at sipwise.com>
> Betreff: platform internal value added call rating between subscribers
>  
> Hello,
>  
> found out a new special thing today with platform internal calls and local value added call rating and negative fees:
>  
> The setup:
>  
> I created a billing profile with 3 entries:
> -          "^43.+$","^43900222222.+$",in,"Inbound VAC","Austria",-2.5,1,-2.5,1,-2.5,1,-2.5,1,0
> -          ".","^43900.+$",out,"Outbound VAC”,”Austria”,3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1, 3.3,1,0
> -          “^.*@sip\.telematica\.at$”,out,"Telematica","Internal Network",0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0.0166667,1,0
>  
> I created a subscriber A with number 43 720 111111
> I created a subscriber B with number 43 720 888888 and Alias 43 900 222222
>  
> If someone is calling the number of subscriber B, the caller should pay 2 EUR.
> If subscriber B is receiving a call to his 43 900 222222 number, he should get billed with -1,5 EUR.
> If subscriber A is calling subscriber B on 43 720 888888 he should pay the internal network fee of 0,01 EUR.
>  
> The problem is, that the “internal network” fee overrules the fee for subscriber A for the “Outbound VAC” call, but subscriber B gets the “inbound VAC” payment.
> Normally, if subscriber A calls the Alias number of subscriber B the call should be rated with 2 EUR each minute at subscriber A and with -1,5 EUR each minute at subscriber B but the “internal network” fee, just allows that subscriber A will be rated with 0,01 EUR each minute and subscriber B with -1,5 EUR each minute.
>  
> The Subsriber A (caller) will be rated as platform internal call with 0,01 EUR and the subsciber B (callee) will be negative rated with -1,50 EUR.
> So I need to pay the subscriber B money I didn’t get from subscriber A for the value added service call.
>  
> If I remove my “internal network” fee, the subscriber A get billed with the premium rate fee auf 2 EUR and subscriber B get the billed with the negative fee of -1,5 EUR.
> How can I fix this? The “internal network” fee needs to be in a lower priority like the value added call fee, but how to enable this? Any other workaround?
> If I completely remove the “internal network” fee, then every customer will be rated like if this would be a normal external call and the benefit of “internal network” discount fees will be away.
>  
> I also found out, that the “billing zone” in the callee subscriber  is always the billing zone of the caller subscriber.
> This also could be little bit confusing for the callee, cause he didn’t see the right billing zone description for his negative billed Value Added Call.
>  
> Any idea about this?
>  
> I hope I descriped it well enough…
>  
>  
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
> Matthias Hohl
>  
>  
> TELEMATICA Internet Service Provider GmbH
> Phone: +43 (0)5 056 400-12
> Mail: matthias.hohl at telematica.at
> Web: https://www.telematica.at
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